Hardball in Lebanon
Lebanon is interesting to watch. Actually, it's the coverage and varying opinions about Lebanon that is most interesting to follow. Hopefully, thoughtful third parties will put themselves in each factions shoes while considering what's going on. Of course they do not. Everyone feeds on their personal biases and predjudices. If you're not a jew nor an arab/muslim your predjudices may have been formed by many influences such as subtly anti-semetic parents for example. But, for most third parties to a conflict like the jewish-muslim 80-year bargaining session, their influences come from the media.
Of course all people are aware that the media is loaded with their own predjudices. Sadly they may forget that knowledge when Fox News or the New York Times is informing them with spin. The media in America has always had an extreme bias toward Israel's success. That bias has more than one root. It mimicks the policy of the US and other Western governments since WWII. The UN did it overwhelmingly. Even Stalin voted in favor of creating Israel out of other people's cloth.
It was wrong headed and immoral. The Palestinans got mugged bigtime. Then the arab-world began to do insanely stupid things in reaction over-and-over for the next 60 years...and probably for the next 60 if Israel doesn't stress out and nuke them first. Why did the world mug the palestinians so easily? The answer can not be known. It is simple but certainly not simple. While the europeans in general abhored the german final solution they did not necessarily disagree in the result. Israel was the rest of the world's and international zionism's agreed-upon final solution. The bedouin were disorganized tribal rabble. The jews who would build the modern state of israel were mostly europeans first. Unlike the arab world, the zionists had learned the military lessons of WWII. Zionism had WWII surplus, and the House of Rothschild behind them. The Arab world had telegraphed to the jewish immigrants that when the international community left they would kill all the jews in revenge. That was the first post-war stupid emotional thing they did. Any thinking Israeli was going to beg borrow and steal to avoid being eliminated somemore by hateful people.
Until the 20th century, a more correct term would have been judeao-muslim tradition than judeo-christian. Jews were essential throughout the predominantly muslim countries. The Ottomans and the rest used the jews for access to things proscribed by islam. The jews were the money lenders in other words. When one finally owes the money lenders to much it's easier to kill the lender than to pay him. While your at it you might as well kill the money lender's whole community since they only became successful off my interest. People always have great reasons to hate their neighbors. Basic tribalism is everywhere.
The jews realized that the moment they fell behind the curve they would be massacreed once more. The threat is verbalized throughout the arab/mulism world daily. Millions have been raised to passionately hate israel until they die. Surrounded as they are, if israel misses a beat they're all dead. From an israeli piont-of-view hardball is the only game in town. When the hate intoxicated around you learn to play hardball, you must play ever harder ball...of course.
But watching the sides in the current Lebanese affair everyone's best and worst come out. The hyperbolic excuses both sides is in extreme mode. I have lived and travelled in muslim countries between Morrocco and Indonesia. I did not get into Saudi or the gulf states mostly because they were not on the way anywhere. Even Yemen was visited on the way to somewhere else. I only mention this to say that my views came from living with the people. I never went to Israel. One travels for the exotic. The intrusive ultra-militarized modern artificial neo-american outpost state of Israel was about as enticing to a young world-travelling athiest as Utah, the Vatican or the Rhineland. The passport stamp was also a death knell for a world traveler.
The israeli spin this time has been the usual victimhood. The world press buys it pretty much. The israeli publicity machine in israel and beyond is greased like the finest Swiss timepiece. Mulims were much less able and likely to bend their thing to please the western mind. The muslim spin doctors do everything wrong. The west which underwrote and guaranteed the success of the state of israel ("just go now, please") will not let it fail. The consequences in the market place are to ghastly to imagine. The state of israel struck something better than oil in the long run. They struck vaults...and Oak Ridge, TN.
When small problems arise with their ultra heavy handed tactics, the world-wide publicity machine goes into action with victim blather. When problems arise for the other semites, it's generally handled with horrendous publicity. The so-called civilized world still sees the arabs as rabble or rabble royalty. There as many muslims in america as jews. yet, in general, the arabs have never learned to play the success game as well. Getting american public opinion on the islamic side was admittedly an uphill battle. Blowing up planes at Dawson's Field, attacking the civillian world in Munich, suicide [read:dumb] bombers, and all the rest of the atrocities have lost all public sympathy. They lost the war for people's minds.
As for disproportionate force that's the rule of american police and the Powell Doctrine. The judges always give the max declaring they were making an example. That' what Israel's doing. "See what happens to you when you fuck with me?" There's no anger. What good would that do? There's an excuse to act so we'll take it thank you very much. They want everyone in Lebanon to be mad at the saintly Hizbolah. They was everyone in Palestine to hate the saintly Hamas.
Meanwhile the zionist elite drools over the west bank...east israel.
Of course all people are aware that the media is loaded with their own predjudices. Sadly they may forget that knowledge when Fox News or the New York Times is informing them with spin. The media in America has always had an extreme bias toward Israel's success. That bias has more than one root. It mimicks the policy of the US and other Western governments since WWII. The UN did it overwhelmingly. Even Stalin voted in favor of creating Israel out of other people's cloth.
It was wrong headed and immoral. The Palestinans got mugged bigtime. Then the arab-world began to do insanely stupid things in reaction over-and-over for the next 60 years...and probably for the next 60 if Israel doesn't stress out and nuke them first. Why did the world mug the palestinians so easily? The answer can not be known. It is simple but certainly not simple. While the europeans in general abhored the german final solution they did not necessarily disagree in the result. Israel was the rest of the world's and international zionism's agreed-upon final solution. The bedouin were disorganized tribal rabble. The jews who would build the modern state of israel were mostly europeans first. Unlike the arab world, the zionists had learned the military lessons of WWII. Zionism had WWII surplus, and the House of Rothschild behind them. The Arab world had telegraphed to the jewish immigrants that when the international community left they would kill all the jews in revenge. That was the first post-war stupid emotional thing they did. Any thinking Israeli was going to beg borrow and steal to avoid being eliminated somemore by hateful people.
Until the 20th century, a more correct term would have been judeao-muslim tradition than judeo-christian. Jews were essential throughout the predominantly muslim countries. The Ottomans and the rest used the jews for access to things proscribed by islam. The jews were the money lenders in other words. When one finally owes the money lenders to much it's easier to kill the lender than to pay him. While your at it you might as well kill the money lender's whole community since they only became successful off my interest. People always have great reasons to hate their neighbors. Basic tribalism is everywhere.
The jews realized that the moment they fell behind the curve they would be massacreed once more. The threat is verbalized throughout the arab/mulism world daily. Millions have been raised to passionately hate israel until they die. Surrounded as they are, if israel misses a beat they're all dead. From an israeli piont-of-view hardball is the only game in town. When the hate intoxicated around you learn to play hardball, you must play ever harder ball...of course.
But watching the sides in the current Lebanese affair everyone's best and worst come out. The hyperbolic excuses both sides is in extreme mode. I have lived and travelled in muslim countries between Morrocco and Indonesia. I did not get into Saudi or the gulf states mostly because they were not on the way anywhere. Even Yemen was visited on the way to somewhere else. I only mention this to say that my views came from living with the people. I never went to Israel. One travels for the exotic. The intrusive ultra-militarized modern artificial neo-american outpost state of Israel was about as enticing to a young world-travelling athiest as Utah, the Vatican or the Rhineland. The passport stamp was also a death knell for a world traveler.
The israeli spin this time has been the usual victimhood. The world press buys it pretty much. The israeli publicity machine in israel and beyond is greased like the finest Swiss timepiece. Mulims were much less able and likely to bend their thing to please the western mind. The muslim spin doctors do everything wrong. The west which underwrote and guaranteed the success of the state of israel ("just go now, please") will not let it fail. The consequences in the market place are to ghastly to imagine. The state of israel struck something better than oil in the long run. They struck vaults...and Oak Ridge, TN.
When small problems arise with their ultra heavy handed tactics, the world-wide publicity machine goes into action with victim blather. When problems arise for the other semites, it's generally handled with horrendous publicity. The so-called civilized world still sees the arabs as rabble or rabble royalty. There as many muslims in america as jews. yet, in general, the arabs have never learned to play the success game as well. Getting american public opinion on the islamic side was admittedly an uphill battle. Blowing up planes at Dawson's Field, attacking the civillian world in Munich, suicide [read:dumb] bombers, and all the rest of the atrocities have lost all public sympathy. They lost the war for people's minds.
As for disproportionate force that's the rule of american police and the Powell Doctrine. The judges always give the max declaring they were making an example. That' what Israel's doing. "See what happens to you when you fuck with me?" There's no anger. What good would that do? There's an excuse to act so we'll take it thank you very much. They want everyone in Lebanon to be mad at the saintly Hizbolah. They was everyone in Palestine to hate the saintly Hamas.
Meanwhile the zionist elite drools over the west bank...east israel.
posted by Padrino at 9:28 AM
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